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10:37:57 AM Start
10:38:54 AM Legislative Presentation: Overview of the Department of Corrections Administrative Review
01:17:39 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Joint with Senate Judiciary
+ Overview of Dept. of Corrections Administrative TELECONFERENCED
Review by:
- Dean Williams, Special Assistant, Office of
the Governor
- Joe Hanlon, Former FBI Agent
- Walt Monegan, Interim Commissioner, Dept. of
Corrections
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        December 8, 2015                                                                                        
                           10:37 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Chair                                                                                                   
 Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                               
 Senator Mia Costello                                                                                                           
 Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                         
 Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                          
 Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                        
 Representative Charisse Millett - on teleconference                                                                            
 Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                     
 Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                     
 Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LEGISLATIVE PRESENTATION: OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT OF                                                                         
CORRECTIONS ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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DEAN WILLIAMS, "Special Assistant                                                                                               
Office of the Governor                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Stated that  several months ago the governor                                                             
asked him to  be involved in the Department  of Corrections (DOC)                                                               
policy review.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JOE HANLON, retired FBI Agent                                                                                                   
Office of the Governor)                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Said he  became involved in the  DOC policy                                                             
review when Mr. Williams asked him to be part of it.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KHANESIA MOSLEY                                                                                                                 
No address stated                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Mr. Mosley's  mother who  said she  wanted                                                             
Davon's truth to be told. She  appreciated the work they had done                                                               
and what the governor is doing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
VERNESIA GORDON                                                                                                                 
No address stated                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Mr. Mosely's  girlfriend who thanked god for                                                             
justice.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER MONEGAN                                                                                                     
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on  changing DOC policy and prison                                                             
culture.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LAURA BROOKS                                                                                                                    
Health Care Administrator                                                                                                       
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on health care issues in the DOC.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:37:57 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR LESIL  MCGUIRE called the  joint meeting of the  Senate and                                                             
House  Judiciary  Standing  Committees  to order  at  10:37  a.m.                                                               
Present at  the call to  order were Senators  Micciche, Costello,                                                               
Coghill, Wielechowski, and Chair McGuire.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GARIELLE  LEDOUX  announced that  Representatives  Keller,                                                             
Claman, Millett (teleconference), and Lynn were present.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Legislative   Presentation:  Overview   of  the   Department  of                                                               
Corrections Administrative Review                                                                                               
    Legislative Presentation: Overview of the Department of                                                                 
               Corrections Administrative Review                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
10:38:54 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE said the Department  of Corrections (DOC) report is                                                               
lengthy and was synthesized for  today's presentation. The number                                                               
of deaths in  Alaska's prison system, even  though Alaska doesn't                                                               
have a death  penalty, is what launched concerns:  one being that                                                               
Alaskans are often imprisoned before  trial and haven't had their                                                               
day in  court. Today they would  hear from Dean Williams  and Joe                                                               
Hanlon who  Governor Walker tasked  with an investigation  of the                                                               
DOC over  the last few months.  The report is a  summary of their                                                               
work  and it  is  a  matter of  public  record  on the  Judiciary                                                               
website.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
She  said  there had  been  many  attempts  to partner  with  the                                                               
department  and she  is grateful  to the  administration for  its                                                               
cooperation. It is an example of  how government can work for the                                                               
people. Everyone's intentions are  good, but Davon Mosley's death                                                               
means that  something needs  to be  done quickly,  and in  a non-                                                               
partisan way.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:41:44 AM                                                                                                                   
She said  this is  not just  about inmate  safety, but  access to                                                               
training and safety  behind bars for the men and  women who chose                                                               
to dedicate  their lives serving as  corrections officers, parole                                                               
officers, and health staff inside  these facilities, as well. She                                                               
hoped  the  wrongs  that  came   out  of  this  report  could  be                                                               
rectified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX announced  Representative Gruenberg's  presence and                                                               
thanked the governor, Mr. Hanlon  and Mr. Williams for doing this                                                               
investigation.  She stated  that legislators  want to  figure out                                                               
what is wrong with the prison  culture and fix it without blaming                                                               
anyone.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:45:10 AM                                                                                                                   
DEAN  WILLIAMS,  "Special  Assistant,  Office  of  the  Governor,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, introduced  himself and  stated that  several                                                               
months ago the governor asked him to be involved in this review.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOE  HANLON,   retired  FBI  Agent,  Office   of  the  Governor),                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska,   introduced  himself  and  said   he  became                                                               
involved in  this review when Mr.  Williams asked him to  be part                                                               
of it. He  was assured that the  review was going to  be based on                                                               
facts  and  circumstances and  that  they  would have  unfettered                                                               
access to whatever was needed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:47:36 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS said the truth is  a good place to start and nothing                                                               
will  deter them  from doing  that to  the best  extent possible.                                                               
Finding troubling facts tests one's  resolve. However, the bottom                                                               
line is that they are here,  because the governor believes in the                                                               
truth.  He has  not flinched  from  this resolve.  The facts  are                                                               
important  so that  change can  happen. Today  they will  present                                                               
their  findings and  pictures of  four disturbing  deaths in  the                                                               
Alaska corrections system.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He also  announced that after  today's hearing the  governor will                                                               
release two video sequences involving  the deaths of Davon Mosley                                                               
and Gilbert Joseph. It was  the governor's intention all along to                                                               
release certain  videos to the  media once the families  had been                                                               
fully  briefed. Two  will be  released  today and  the other  two                                                               
after the families  are debriefed. When he  started this journey,                                                               
a close  friend told him  he was  doing work referenced  in Micah                                                               
6:8, which says:  "Seek Justice, love mercy and  walk humbly with                                                               
God."                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:50:25 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS said  the review lasted 12 weeks, a  heavy lift, and                                                               
they  are  still  getting feedback  from  correctional  officers,                                                               
staff  and inmates.  The process  has been  started and  he hears                                                               
from them every day.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:51:23 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. HANLON said  the department has over 200  public policies and                                                               
23  more  restricted  policies   for  security  and  safety,  but                                                               
surprisingly  some  of them  had  not  been revisited  since  the                                                               
1980s. Prison  reform is a  nationwide issue and  policies should                                                               
be  reviewed every  year or  two  for current  best practices  in                                                               
prison operations and  new case law that is  being established in                                                               
cases all over the country.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS said  one of  the  policies of  concern is  suicide                                                               
prevention, which  is 20 years  old. It  is a problem  in running                                                               
any  large  organization.  Their  report  talked  about  facility                                                               
structure,  one of  his areas  of expertise,  as he  had run  ran                                                               
McLaughlin and  a Nome  facility. The  command structure  is also                                                               
important and he  advised taking a healthy look at  it. Right now                                                               
superintendents  oversee  their   managers,  their  admin  staff,                                                               
including  correction officers,  their  cooks, their  maintenance                                                               
people, but  do not directly  supervise most of their  medical or                                                               
mental health staff  - kind of a bi-furcated  system. Those staff                                                               
report directly to the DOC state office.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He  explained that  from his  own  experience, he  would find  it                                                               
difficult to supervise unless he  had complete control: authority                                                               
and  supervision  of  everyone  in  his  building.  Some  of  the                                                               
accumulated  problems have  are blurred  lines of  responsibility                                                               
that sometimes cause  a problem when things are  going well, too.                                                               
Many  superintendents have  made  the  divided command  structure                                                               
work, because  in smaller  communities, it's  less of  a problem.                                                               
To be fair,  he said, everyone in corrections  wants to cooperate                                                               
and get along. It is not  an attitude problem, it's just that the                                                               
structure of divided command has issues.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:54:59 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS  said that many  reform efforts around  the country,                                                               
including the  federal prisons, have  worked very hard  to reduce                                                               
solitary confinement or as DOC  refers to it, segregation. He had                                                               
a high  level of concern  when he  found that four  juveniles who                                                               
had been in  solitary for 11 months. These four  had escaped from                                                               
the  Kenai  youth facility  and  had  not seriously  assaulted  a                                                               
staff.  Solitary confinement  for 11  months is  problematic even                                                               
for adults.  So, he  has challenged  DOC is  to start  getting in                                                               
line  with other  states and  federal prisons  that are  reducing                                                               
solitary confinement.  Colorado has reduced  solitary confinement                                                               
to almost  zero. It  should be "absolutely  the last  resort" and                                                               
clearly  articulated  for  safety  and security  reasons  at  the                                                               
highest level.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS said  that internal  investigation  is another  big                                                               
issue: you  can't fix anything  unless it can be  investigated to                                                               
find out  what is wrong. This  is one of the  most profound areas                                                               
that needs  addressing. They  have plans: a  short term  plan for                                                               
the next  six months and a  long term plan that  he would oversee                                                               
from the  governor's office of a  standup agency to see  that all                                                               
law   enforcement    entities   in   the   state    do   internal                                                               
investigations. He  emphasized that  the ability to  fact-find is                                                               
critical, especially  for agencies that have  such high authority                                                               
and control over the people in a closed prison system.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Two of  their reviewed cases  are about two individuals  who died                                                               
in on Title 47 protective  custody; they hadn't even been charged                                                               
with a  crime! They actually  died during  the course of  his and                                                               
Mr. Hanlon  doing the  review, which  actually helped  the review                                                               
because they  were able  to investigate  how things  happened and                                                               
what the outflow of the bad events were.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:58:36 AM                                                                                                                   
His point is that right  now intoxicated individuals who have not                                                               
been charged  with a crime  are ending  up in jail  in protective                                                               
custody.  Even in  that case,  there  has been  confusion in  the                                                               
department about what  Title 47 says. It has become  a minimum 12                                                               
hours  when it's  really supposed  to  be a  maximum. The  minute                                                               
someone sobers up or a family  member comes by to get you, you're                                                               
supposed to be  released. Even under current  statute there seems                                                               
to be  confusion about what it  says. He encouraged them  to work                                                               
on this,  because it's a  win/win all the  way around. It  is the                                                               
bane of liability  for all the prisons. He pointed  out that this                                                               
statute was changed in the juvenile arena about 15 years ago.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS said  in Fairbanks  the average  of 510  people for                                                               
returning under Title  47 protective custody is 3.5  times in one                                                               
year. One case came back  73 times. However, numbers have dropped                                                               
dramatically in some places like  Bethel, where progress is being                                                               
made  with  detox centers.  His  whole  point  is that  they  are                                                               
putting  high risk,  medically-unstable  people  in prison  cells                                                               
that have  other medically unstable  people, and things  go wrong                                                               
in these places.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:01:46 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR MICCICHE asked if his figures were per annum.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAM  answered yes. In  2014, if you  were one of  the 510                                                               
that  came into  the  Fairbanks facility,  you  would return  3.5                                                               
times on average in one year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLON pointed out in the  Gilbert case, it was his 8th visit                                                               
in one month on a Title 47 hold.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:02:48 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked of the  510 individuals who came into                                                               
Fairbanks  correctional facility  if  any came  in on  protective                                                               
custody.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS  answered that  510  individuals  came back  in  on                                                               
protective custody for a total of 1743 times in one year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  remarked  that Anchorage  has  more  than                                                               
three times  the population of  Fairbanks but has fewer  Title 47                                                               
individuals.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:04:26 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR LEDOUX  asked if the  Fairbanks numbers are  skewed because                                                               
one or two people were returning more frequently.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  remarked that the  figures show where some  of the                                                               
cost drivers are.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:05:16 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  the  modal  average number  that                                                               
most people return.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS said  he didn't  know that  answer. He  went on  to                                                               
other policy  issues: one being that  the cost of the  phone call                                                               
system just went up, actually causing  what looked like a riot at                                                               
Lemon Creek.  Information he has  indicates that the  cost burden                                                               
has increased on inmates, although it saves the DOC money.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:07:19 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  HANLON  said  another  surprising  issue  is  that  not  all                                                               
correction  officers could  initially attend  the training  basic                                                               
academy, which doesn't run  continually. One correctional officer                                                               
said it  took him 10 months  to get to the  Academy. This results                                                               
in doing things  the academy way or the field  way. The time they                                                               
are brought  on board initially  should be much shorter  and they                                                               
should be assigned to a field training officer.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
It was  equally confusing  that no  uniform system  is set  up to                                                               
either  annually   or  at  some   fixed  time   make  performance                                                               
evaluations to ensure  that people understand their  jobs and are                                                               
performing them correctly. One officer  told him he hadn't had an                                                               
evaluation for eight years.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:10:46 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  said  a  big concern  of  a  current  corrections                                                               
officer (CO)  and one retired  one is  that they had  started out                                                               
with   very  specific   approaches  to   training  with   updates                                                               
throughout the year.  That had gotten reduced down to  one of the                                                               
officers getting just  two hours of training and even  that had a                                                               
backlog.   This  needs to  be  highlighted as  cultures and  best                                                               
practices change.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:11:08 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  WILLIAMS  moved  on  to viewing  slides  starting  with  the                                                               
oldest,  the  Davon  Mosley  case,   mostly  because  it  was  is                                                               
concerning.  On March  20 the  video  showed Mr.  Mosley who  was                                                               
taken  into segregation  for  challenging  a CO  to  a fight.  It                                                               
doesn't appear  that he did  that, and he  voluntarily handcuffed                                                               
up  on this  day. He  was  in custody  for 20-some  days. He  was                                                               
sprayed with  human pepper  spray that first  day, a  common tool                                                               
for  law enforcement  that is  permitted in  jail settings  under                                                               
strict policies. In this case, it occurred inside the cell.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that the pepper spray  is at an approved  level for                                                               
humans. Later on the same day,  Mr. Mosley again got a very large                                                               
blast of the spray. The video  showed Mr. Mosley at the cell door                                                               
uncuffing, because  he had to  be cuffed when  he was out  of the                                                               
cell. When  he returned to the  cell, the door closed  and he has                                                               
his cuffs on  behind him; he goes  back to the door  so the cuffs                                                               
could be removed.  In the scene he appears to  fall down with one                                                               
cuff on  and he walks  back with one  cuff on. He  shouldn't have                                                               
one cuff on; both should be  removed. The cell door is closed; he                                                               
is walking back to the bunk  with no mattress. He is then sprayed                                                               
with  a  full blast,  a  much  larger  dose  from a  much  larger                                                               
canister,  after he  sits down  on the  bunk with  the cell  door                                                               
closed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:15:04 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  COSTELLO asked  the physical  result  of getting  pepper                                                               
sprayed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HANLON  said  it  is   very  irritating  and  uncomfortable,                                                               
especially if  it gets  into your  eyes or mouth,  or if  you are                                                               
sweating. In law enforcement it  is used to get compliance. After                                                               
it's used the standard protocol is to rinse the individual off.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO  asked  if   physical  ramifications  are  more                                                               
serious from  an inappropriate level  of pepper spray and  if Mr.                                                               
Mosley was rinsed off both times.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS   explained  that  higher  concentrations   of  the                                                               
irritating agent  is what is used  for a bear; it  is reduced for                                                               
humans. "It's  very uncomfortable. It  shuts you right  down." In                                                               
that  particular case,  Mr. Mosley  used  water in  the sink  and                                                               
toilet water to rinse himself.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX asked  what possible  justification there  could be                                                               
for spraying somebody once they are already back in their cell.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  answered that he  found no justification.  On March                                                               
25, Mr.  Mosely was picked  up on  warrant out of  California and                                                               
brought  to  the  Anchorage  jail.   On  this  day,  agents  from                                                               
California showed up to take him  back. As a result, according to                                                               
DOC documents, when they saw him  in this condition, they did not                                                               
want to  assume custody,  and didn't. He  was subject  to release                                                               
this day  after the  paperwork was  processed. The  paperwork was                                                               
apparently lost at the Anchorage jail  and he was held in custody                                                               
until the  day he died.  By all  legal standards, he  should have                                                               
been released either on this day or very shortly thereafter.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:19:18 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR MICCICHE asked  the reason for the  original warrant from                                                               
California.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLON answered taht it was a parole violation warrant.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked about Mr. Mosley's mental health condition.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE asked if California  officials did not think the                                                               
offense was serious  enough to risk moving Mr.  Mosley, were they                                                               
provided  with any  possible reason  he remained  in custody  for                                                               
another week from March 27 until April 4.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered they couldn't find a reason in the record.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  wondered if  this  was  a widespread  problem,                                                               
because of the $80-120/day cost for individuals to DOC.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  remarked that  the PEW  Report mentioned  how many                                                               
people are in  pretrial status and in on  probation violation, as                                                               
opposed to having gone through the actual conviction process.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:22:12 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  if  Alaska law  requires DOC  to                                                               
notify the court if the charges  are dropped against a person and                                                               
if he has a right to a  hearing. Does anything in the law protect                                                               
the prisoner?                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS  said  that  was  getting away  from  his  area  of                                                               
expertise, but  he couldn't deduce  anything from the  facts that                                                               
caused the system to retain Mr. Mosley from March 27-on.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG said he wasn't  aware of any crime under                                                               
Alaska law for mistreating a prisoner.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS said that was correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  asked  how  long it  usually  takes  between  when                                                               
charges are dropped and the  person leaves the system when things                                                               
go correctly.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS said  it can take a  few hours, but the  same day or                                                               
overnight, not the multiple days in this case.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:24:19 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  that  may be  a  policy Acting  Commissioner                                                               
Monegan could focus on in his wrap-up.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  said  if  he  were  a  state  with  a  problem                                                               
individual  that Alaska  had now  chosen  to care  for, he  might                                                               
leave them  in Alaska, too.  In the future, they  should consider                                                               
either  committing to  extradite the  individual or  dropping the                                                               
warrant,  period. If  the  crime is  not  serious enough,  Alaska                                                               
shouldn't be  volunteering for care  taker status to  solve other                                                               
criminal justice problems.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked about Mr.  Mosley's diagnosis and how he came                                                               
into protective custody in the first place.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  replied that  he was on  a warrant,  not protective                                                               
custody.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked what precipitated his arrest.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  said concerned extended family  members initiated a                                                               
welfare check, because Mr. Mosley  is bi-polar and has had mental                                                               
health problems in  the past. He did better on  meds. The autopsy                                                               
report said  he still had  some residual  meds in his  system. It                                                               
looks like he  had them initially, but not for  the extended part                                                               
of his  stay. He showed  pictures of Mr.  Mosley in the  state of                                                               
declining health.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said  they should look at the  prison population as                                                               
a whole and the policy  protocols for handling of welfare checks,                                                               
because  such a  high  percentage have  underlying mental  health                                                               
issues. Family  said they tried  to bring mental health  drugs to                                                               
him, but were declined.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLON added that this was  an extradition case and those are                                                               
handled  differently than  the typical  criminal case.  It starts                                                               
with a  warrant and then the  person is placed in  custody. There                                                               
may  be provisions  that allow  them  to bail  out, but  commonly                                                               
there are  no bail provisions.  There is, however, a  10-day hold                                                               
and the  person is entitled  to council.  It makes no  sense that                                                               
this person  was on a  10-day extradition hold. They  are usually                                                               
brought back in  court on the 10th day. If  the state still wants                                                               
him  the process  continues, but  if  they don't,  he is  usually                                                               
released. In this  instance the answer was they  didn't want him,                                                               
in which case the warrant goes away.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS and  MR. HANLON  both said  they could  find to  no                                                               
explanation for keeping Mr. Mosley.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:29:33 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS continued showing the  pictures; one showed that Mr.                                                               
Mosley  had no  mattress and  only one  blanket in  his cell.  He                                                               
explained that people  who are locked up  in solitary confinement                                                               
find  something to  do  to occupy  their time  or  they get  into                                                               
trouble. That  is the  reason why  employment inside  prisons and                                                               
all the  things they  used to  do in  terms of  prison industries                                                               
were   good  things.   Solitary-confined   people,  unless   they                                                               
absolutely  have to  be there,  become  problematic and  trouble-                                                               
makers. Some are  not good people to begin with.  It looks like a                                                               
viable option, but  people need outlets or they  devolve. This is                                                               
why other states have made  very substantial progress in reducing                                                               
its use.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:33:13 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR LEDOUX  referred to a picture  and asked if Mr.  Mosley was                                                               
totally naked  and asked  if that  is how  prisoners are  left in                                                               
solitary confinement.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  answered that is how  Mr. Mosley was left  for this                                                               
period of days.  They had heard other stories  of prisoners going                                                               
without  clothes   for  shorter  periods  of   time,  but  hadn't                                                               
identified  other cases  where someone  was left  without clothes                                                               
for  extended periods  of time.  Mr.  Mosley's case  is the  most                                                               
egregious. Being  nude is  unacceptable in  prison, he  said, and                                                               
this was multiple days on end.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX asked  if Mr. Mosley took his clothes  off or was he                                                               
not even given clothes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS answered  that  at this  point,  Mr. Mosley  wasn't                                                               
given clothes.  They paint the picture  that he tore some  of his                                                               
clothes and  his mattress up  earlier; the dynamic is,  well, you                                                               
destroyed the clothes  you had earlier, so you  don't get clothes                                                               
now. DOC  has forms that  sort of  approve this standard  of care                                                               
and some are signed off at supervisory levels.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS continued displaying  pictures from March 31 showing                                                               
that a sandwich  and an apple had  been thrown in from  a slot in                                                               
the cell  door. On April  4, a picture  at 11:18 a.m.  showed Mr.                                                               
Mosley gasping for air (agonal  breathing), releasing his bladder                                                               
and probably dying.  He was found at 1:10 p.m.  and staff entered                                                               
his cell at 1:16 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX asked how he died and if an autopsy was performed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS replied  that he had 12 duodenum ulcers  and died of                                                               
internal bleeding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked  if that is a typical  result of a                                                               
beating.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  said he saw  nothing in the videos  indicating that                                                               
beatings occurred.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  if   anyone  knew  why  he  had                                                               
duodenum ulcers.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  replied that  his close  physician friend  told him                                                               
that stress  induces ulcers,  but they didn't  know that  was the                                                               
reason Mr. Mosley died.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:38:10 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked if there is any gap in the tape.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered that there  are 20 days-worth of videos and                                                               
he didn't  look through all  of them.  People who saw  the videos                                                               
didn't see anything like that,  but there was a three-hour period                                                               
when he  was gone out of  any camera shot, presumably  to shower,                                                               
and no bruising was found in the autopsy.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said there was  some question of his  being pulled                                                               
out of cell for a few hours.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS clarified  that he didn't look at every  hour of all                                                               
the videos. According  to the family and their  lawyer, there was                                                               
a period of three hours when he was not in the video.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX asked  his physical state of  health before entering                                                               
the facility.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  said he  looks healthy when  he comes  in: walking,                                                               
talking, and cooperating everyone.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX asked his age.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  said he forgot, but  over the course of  the videos                                                               
he  has trouble  walking and  by April  4th he's  not functioning                                                               
well. He staggers  around and sits down a lot.  His condition was                                                               
highly troubling.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:41:01 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if any  employees had been disciplined                                                               
for  any actions  related  to  this case  and  if the  procedures                                                               
followed by the officers were the corrections' policies.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  answered the only  employees that  were disciplined                                                               
were  the two  on shift  of the  last day  in Mr.  Mosley's life,                                                               
because they were  supposed to be doing security  checks every 30                                                               
minutes and one of them claimed  he saw Mr. Mosley alive at about                                                               
noon, when he had already passed at 11:18 a.m.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if the  corrections  officers  were                                                               
following policies that were in place at the time.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered  that staff felt they were  doing what they                                                               
were  supposed to  be  doing. He  explained  that clear  policies                                                               
provide for  adequate food and  medical care. There  are policies                                                               
for administrators, as  well, on walking through  and making sure                                                               
they  are  aware  of  the   conditions  of  people  that  are  on                                                               
segregation.  If these  policies  had been  followed, this  death                                                               
should  have  been  prevented.  A culture  seemed  to  have  been                                                               
created  around segregation,  so  he and  Mr.  Hanlon spent  many                                                               
hours  together looking  at these  places and  talking about  the                                                               
culture and  the environment. Mr.  Mosely's case is  probably the                                                               
most  profound  and most  extreme  in  terms  of the  concept  of                                                               
culture.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Their  report  talks  about  how  on  certain  days  in  solitary                                                               
confinement no  one wanted  to shower  or didn't  want to  make a                                                               
phone   call.  To   him  that   seems  highly   irregular.  Other                                                               
facilities' log  books are  filled out to  the "T,"  because that                                                               
superintendent "rides  roughshod over  them." They all  get their                                                               
showers; you know which ones are out. It looks real.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:44:39 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COGHILL  said it  is very disturbing  and that  a regular                                                               
person  could  not do  well  under  these circumstances.  Putting                                                               
youth  in confinement  is troubling  and he  vowed to  take their                                                               
recommendations seriously.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  Mr.  Mosley's weight  when  he entered  the                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLON  said he didn't  remember, but the pictures  show that                                                               
he lost weight.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   MICCICHE  asked   what  had   been  done   procedurally                                                               
immediately to get in the way  of this occurring again until they                                                               
can find solutions system-wide.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  answered that these  things have  to come out  as a                                                               
recommendation of  Internal Affairs.  In this  case if  there had                                                               
been a proper Internal Affairs  investigation they probably would                                                               
have made  ground, because it would  have all been out  in front.                                                               
In the  short term, the governor  assigned him and Mr.  Hanlon to                                                               
look at all  future deaths. Commissioner Monegan is  on board and                                                               
will  assign  his  hand-picked  team.  The remedy  is  to  be  as                                                               
transparent and honest as possible if anything occurs like this.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Their report is a first step,  but he wants to develop a stand-up                                                               
agency that  operates outside of the  commissioner's pressure and                                                               
influence. The facts need to come  out clean and those will drive                                                               
the solutions. The  biggest problem is that they  haven't had the                                                               
facts in front of them. But  the governor is not letting off this                                                               
particular case.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  they  look forward  to  partnering with  the                                                               
executive branch to address action on these issues.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:49:24 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR MICCICHE said he has  a small background in investigation                                                               
and  there are  certain  levels of  risk  that require  immediate                                                               
solutions and he hoped this investigation rises to that level.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO asked what assurance  Alaskans have that if they                                                               
have a loved  who is sent to a state  corrections facility in the                                                               
immediate future that they haven't been sent somewhere to die.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS answered  that everything  that came  out of  their                                                               
recommendations is  a good start  and the  internal investigation                                                               
piece  is  so  important  because   it  changes  behavior  inside                                                               
facilities. However, the public trust issue isn't a quick fix.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN asked  if  there is  any  evidence that  Mr.                                                               
Mosley or  his family was aware  of his medical condition  and at                                                               
any time during this  period did he ask to see  a doctor. And did                                                               
he get ulcers before or after incarceration?                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered that nothing  in his medical file indicated                                                               
he had ulcers  when he came in  and it's hard to  figure out from                                                               
the file  that he asked  for medical care.  One time he  asked to                                                               
speak to  a mental health technician  and there was no  log entry                                                               
saying  he met  with anyone.  Records weren't  kept well,  and in                                                               
that kind of environment one  learns whether asking for something                                                               
has any real chance of getting a response.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:53:43 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  LEDOUX asked  if  serious bodily  injuries  while in  jail                                                               
would be investigated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  answered that Commissioner  Monegan is  fully aware                                                               
of the  huge problem in  reporting bad things that  have occurred                                                               
inside  the facilities  and his  new leadership  means they  will                                                               
tell the truth.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:55:48 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE invited the Mosely  family forward and said she was                                                               
sorry  for their  loss and  appreciated their  bravery in  coming                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KHANESIA MOSLEY,  Mr. Mosley's mother, thanked  the committee for                                                               
the opportunity  to speak; she  wanted Davon's truth to  be told.                                                               
She appreciated the  work they had done and what  the governor is                                                               
doing.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VERNESIA GORDON, Mr. Mosely's fiancé  and the mother of his three                                                               
children, thanked god for justice.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSLEY said  Davon was healthy when he  entered the facility.                                                               
He called  his fiancé up every  day until the 23rd;  he asked for                                                               
medical attention every day and never received it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:00:17 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  if  she was  made aware  on  March 25  that                                                               
California  authorities  decided to  quash  the  warrant for  his                                                               
parole violation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSLEY said  they weren't contacted the day  Davon died until                                                               
8 p.m. She went  to the jail that day at 1:40  p.m. and they told                                                               
her that  he was fine and  to come back later.  Later they called                                                               
his brother and told him he was gone.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX apologized  on behalf  of the  State of  Alaska for                                                               
this travesty.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSLEY  thanked her and said  she didn't want anyone  else to                                                               
have to  go through this  emotional pain.  That is why  she wants                                                               
this to be known as Davon's Law.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:02:02 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE said the value of  life is very important to all of                                                               
them  and  they  have  tried  to  keep  this  as  unpolitical  as                                                               
possible. She thanked them for  coming forward and looked forward                                                               
to  getting something  in place  this session,  so hopefully  his                                                               
children can say he made a difference.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  invited Mr. Williams  and Mr. Hanlon to  come back                                                               
to transition to the next case.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:03:25 PM                                                                                                                   
MR.  WILLIAMS  described  the  Kobuk  Case  and  how  policy  was                                                               
interpreted then.  This issue started  over a struggle  to remove                                                               
civilian clothing  and replace it with  institution clothing. Mr.                                                               
Kobuk was  admitted to the Anchorage  jail in January 28;  he was                                                               
charged  with stealing  a car.  The  Anchorage Police  Department                                                               
(APD)  officers were  asked to  take two  sweatshirts off  of Mr.                                                               
Kobuk  for evidence.  DOC policy  was interpreted  differently by                                                               
staff; some thought  it meant that once a person  was in custody,                                                               
if APD wanted any clothes for  evidentiary value, they had to get                                                               
a warrant. The way it was  interpreted by other officers was that                                                               
APD was asking for it and they wanted to help them out.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  said  removing  civilian  clothing   and  replacing  it  with                                                               
institutional  clothing has  a good  rationale -  for safety.  In                                                               
their assessment,  this became a  fight over clothing  that could                                                               
have either  been delayed  or reviewed  when everyone  had calmed                                                               
down. He  wasn't releasing the  video at this point,  because the                                                               
family had not had time to weigh in.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS said when Mr. Kobuk  came in, he told the nurse that                                                               
he had  cardio-myopathy (a bad  heart). But during the  course of                                                               
the restraint, he  was placed on his stomach  and the sweatshirts                                                               
were  essentially cut  off  of  him. The  report  states that  he                                                               
articulated to the  AP officer and a corrections  officer that he                                                               
couldn't breathe several  times and he can be heard  saying it on                                                               
one  of audios.  At  23:45 the  correctional  officers leave  the                                                               
cell.  At  one time  an  officer  actually  looks at  Mr.  Kobuk,                                                               
because  he recognizes  that he  is not  looking right.  At 23:48                                                               
they realize that  he is not moving. Just 30  seconds or so after                                                               
that they  take him  outside and  start lifesaving  measures, but                                                               
then Mr. Kobuk passed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:08:48 PM                                                                                                                   
The next case  is about Joseph Murphy, a  protective custody case                                                               
in Lemon Creek.  This death occurred during their  review. He did                                                               
not release  the video,  because the family  had not  weighed in.                                                               
Officers left  the cell  23:45 and  at 23:48  Mr. Murphy  was not                                                               
moving. Thirty  seconds later, life saving  measures were started                                                               
and then he died.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:09:33 PM                                                                                                                   
MR.  WILLIAMS  explained  that  Mr.  Murphy  was  brought  in  on                                                               
protective custody  at 0700 and  not charged with any  crime. His                                                               
blood alcohol level was .16 or .18.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX remarked  that his blood alcohol level  was not that                                                               
high and asked  why someone is brought in  for protective custody                                                               
when they have just a .16.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  agreed that it  wasn't a high blood  alcohol level.                                                               
Mr. Murphy could  walk and talk and didn't look  bad. But at 5:52                                                               
a.m. he started complaining of  chest pains; at 5:56 a.m. another                                                               
staff member  shows up and he  complains of chest pains.  At 6:02                                                               
DOC documents  say staff 4 overhears  staff 3 say to  Mr. Murphy:                                                               
"I don't  care. You could  die now. I  don't care." At  6:05 a.m.                                                               
Mr. Murhpy is  walking around patting his  chest and periodically                                                               
pounding on the door. At 6:09 a.m.  he is down on hands and knees                                                               
banging on the  door; at 6:14 a.m. he's patting  his chest again.                                                               
At 6:19 a.m.  he has what appears  to be a heart  attack. At 6:32                                                               
a.m. staff  start to  inquire because he  doesn't look  right. At                                                               
6:34 a.m.  they go into  his cell  and lifesaving are  started at                                                               
6:37 a.m..  Shortly thereafter  Emergency Medical  Services (EMS)                                                               
arrives and  continues with lifesaving  measures for  45 minutes,                                                               
but then Mr. Murphy passes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:14:30 PM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS  said Gilbert Joseph  was brought in  for protective                                                               
custody. His background is that  he drinks hand sanitizer and had                                                               
a  blood  alcohol  level  at   the  autopsy  of  .5,  way  beyond                                                               
functioning, but yet he was cleared from the hospital.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO asked what "cleared from the hospital" means.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  replied that "clearing"  is a subjective  term that                                                               
has no standard  meaning; it means a hundred  different things to                                                               
a hundred different people.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   LEDOUX  asked   if  hospitals   don't  want   intoxicated                                                               
individuals because they cost money.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS answered  that  in  his opinion  it  is a  resource                                                               
issue:  they  take   up  bed  space  and  many   times  they  are                                                               
uncooperative. Statute  says prison  is supposed  to be  the last                                                               
stop,  but it  has turned  into something  else. The  remedy will                                                               
cause a lot of questions. The  hospitals don't want them to stay,                                                               
but the  reality is they are  putting people like Mr.  Joseph who                                                               
was at a highly toxic level in a prison.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:18:27 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said alcoholism is  a disease that is  an epidemic                                                               
in Alaska. People are being  put in protective custody with lower                                                               
blood alcohol  levels because they  are maybe not liked  for some                                                               
reason. On  the other end,  some have  a medical condition  and a                                                               
high blood alcohol level. Is jail the appropriate place?                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
She explained  that for  example, Bethel  has this  exact problem                                                               
and  they  have  a  new facility  that  is  designed  intoxicated                                                               
individuals  into protective  custody, but  it is  a medical-like                                                               
facility that  administers withdrawal drugs and  does monitoring.                                                               
The  goal  is  to  release them  into  a  planned  rehabilitation                                                               
program. She  didn't know  what the costs  are but  the diversion                                                               
ability has been tremendous in that community.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:20:30 PM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS said  there is a lot of discretion  in this area and                                                               
different  communities   are  handling  it  in   different  ways.                                                               
Ketchikan  also has  very  low numbers  and it  has  have a  very                                                               
successful sleep-off  center. The superintendent  talks glowingly                                                               
about how the community has dealt  with the issue, but it doesn't                                                               
work well in all communities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX said  it would seem that  someone with a .4  or a .5                                                               
blood alcohol level belongs in a  hospital and asked if there are                                                               
statistics on income levels and races of these individuals.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:22:23 PM                                                                                                                   
MR. WILLIAMS answered  the law gives the police officer  a lot of                                                               
discretion when  no-one else can  take care of an  intoxicated or                                                               
at-risk individual.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  mentioned the  resource challenge  that is                                                               
placed on the police departments and hospitals.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  said it  likely took decades  to get  into this                                                               
situation  of "a  major management  problem in  our prisons."  He                                                               
asked where the Department of Law was during all of this.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:27:10 PM                                                                                                                   
MR.  WILLIAMS  replied  that  the  Department  of  Law  had  been                                                               
notified  of concerns  on  all  these cases.  In  this case,  the                                                               
trooper was wrong in reporting  that nothing happened in the cell                                                               
when  the man  had  been  assaulted numerous  times.  He and  Mr.                                                               
Hanlon considered  whether this  was incompetence  or purposeful,                                                               
but  they couldn't  answer that  exactly.  The facts  point to  a                                                               
combination of  reasons of how  the DOC  got there.   Some things                                                               
have been  changed since  then, just  by the  fact that  they are                                                               
investigating. He remarked that the  Department of Law was trying                                                               
to make sure the  state didn't get sued for doing  bad, and it is                                                               
worthy  of them  to guard  the state's  resources. However,  that                                                               
became  the way  the problem  was  approached and  he hoped  that                                                               
started changing today.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  commented that in  a private situation  an attorney                                                               
might advise  a client  to dispose of  private documents,  but it                                                               
would  not be  appropriate for  the Department  of Law  to advise                                                               
that; it wants to see bad things in the light of day.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE agreed  that the report mentions a  culture that is                                                               
protective and part of their job is to change that.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:30:25 PM                                                                                                                   
MR.  WILLIAMS  said at  12:20  a.m.  Mr.  Joseph  is hit  by  his                                                               
cellmate; at 12:22 a.m. he is  punched in the head. When he first                                                               
got this report,  it gave the impression that Mr.  Joseph died in                                                               
his  sleep but  that was  not the  case. At  first, Mr.  Williams                                                               
explained that they  originally received the camera  angle on the                                                               
left that didn't  show anything. However, after he  went back and                                                               
visited the facility he was  provided the second camera view that                                                               
was not  provided to the  DOC investigation team, the  trooper or                                                               
to him. This  raised alarms about what was going  on. This is why                                                               
internal investigations matter so much.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that the  second camera was  clearer and  it showed                                                               
the cell  door. At  12:33 a.m.  a staff member  knew he  had been                                                               
assaulted  at  least once.  He  was  watching  this camera  in  a                                                               
control room;  he called  the Sergeant and  other staff  and told                                                               
them Mr. Joseph  just got punched. They went down  and checked it                                                               
out. Nine  minutes after the  staff leaves, the cellmate  (one of                                                               
three  protective custody  individuals in  the cell)  punches Mr.                                                               
Joseph again.  A few  minutes later he  is hit  again open-handed                                                               
across  his chest.  Mr. Joseph  does not  move during  the entire                                                               
time  of the  assault. At  12:45 a.m.,  Mr. Joseph  is completely                                                               
incapacitated  and unconscious.  He was  drug into  his cell  and                                                               
does not move on his own at any time.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
One  camera  shows  the  cellmate  putting  his  hands  over  Mr.                                                               
Joseph's  mouth  for  two  seconds  while  the  other  correction                                                               
officer is  standing there,  because Mr.  Joseph is  snoring very                                                               
loudly.  At 12:49  a.m.  the  cellmate rolls  Mr.  Joseph on  his                                                               
stomach and he got even worse.  He is facing straight down on the                                                               
mat. So,  if he  had problems with  breathing before,  it's worse                                                               
now.  At  1:18 a.m. the other cellmate moves  closer to him after                                                               
being against the  wall. This did not look right.  At 1:30 a.m. -                                                               
the video footage  wasn't very clear - the cellmate  put his hand                                                               
underneath Mr.  Joseph's face  for 15 or  20 seconds.  It's clear                                                               
that  at  1:32  a.m.  Mr. Joseph  starts  agonal  respiration  (a                                                               
medical term for  high carbon dioxide in brain  stem, basically a                                                               
last  struggle to  live). At  1:33  a.m., the  cellmate hits  Mr.                                                               
Joseph on the back really hard.  The last time a breath was noted                                                               
was at  1:34 a.m.  At 2:01  a.m. a security  check is  given. Mr.                                                               
Williams said he surmised that  Mr. Joseph had passed right after                                                               
the  agonal  breathing.  At  3:04  a.m.  staff  finally  realizes                                                               
something is wrong and he is taken out of the cell.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:38:43 PM                                                                                                                   
When  he is  taken  out of  the cell  another  camera caught  the                                                               
imprint of his  nose and mouth straight down on  the mat. At 3:13                                                               
a.m. the EMS arrives.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS stated  that  the governor  is  committed to  doing                                                               
something about  this in a  non-political way. It will  take real                                                               
thought and strategy. Mr. Hanlon is  on contract for the next six                                                               
months to investigate in case something else similar occurs.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE thanked  him and vowed to work with  him during the                                                               
upcoming  session. She  commended the  governor's statement  that                                                               
leadership is  not turning  your back on  problems in  your state                                                               
because they are  ugly or can make your  administration look bad.                                                               
Finally, she said corrections is  reflective of our civilization.                                                               
All  people have  their struggles,  particularly  with drugs  and                                                               
alcohol and cutting mental health programs reflects on this.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HANLON echoed  Mr.  Williams' comments  in  that the  report                                                               
pointed out some clear areas that  need to be addressed. Going to                                                               
jail  seemed to  be automatic  as opposed  to a  measure of  last                                                               
resort  and there  is no  established criteria  for "clearing"  a                                                               
person.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:45:05 PM                                                                                                                   
To  people who  have relatives  in  the system,  Mr. Hanlon  said                                                               
these cases are gross anomalies  to the normal care and attention                                                               
that is given to inmates in the prisons.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX asked if the DOC  gave them unfettered access to its                                                               
records.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HANLON answered  that they  were given  complete freedom  to                                                               
whatever records  they needed, written and  recorded, but earlier                                                               
in  the review  they  got  some feedback  from  staff that  their                                                               
superiors wanted to know what questions were asked.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:47:04 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  MICCICHE commented  that prison  should not  be "cushy,"                                                               
but it  should be  safe. He  is disturbed by  what he  has heard,                                                               
particularly in  protective custody  cases. He  asked if  the one                                                               
inmate charged with  assault could have had something  to do with                                                               
the demise in the last case.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS  answered the  inmate  had  not been  charged  with                                                               
anything yet,  but he knew it  had been referred to  the District                                                               
Attorney's  (DA)  Office, because  he  personally  called the  DA                                                               
about it. The DA hadn't even heard of the case before that.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  the Judiciary  site would  have link  to the                                                               
report and the power point from  today. She asked how families of                                                               
incarcerated individuals could contact him.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  responded that right  now he is getting  emails and                                                               
letters through  constituent relations in the  governor's office.                                                               
He  is   comfortable  with  them   coming  to  his   office,  the                                                               
commissioner's  office or  the governor's  office.  His email  is                                                               
dean.williams@ak.gov.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:51:28 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked  if he is reviewing all  internal policies to                                                               
ensure they have  been updated and are comprehended  by staff and                                                               
are steps  being taken right  now where there are  known problems                                                               
(solitary confinement,  suicide and  training) with  an eye  to a                                                               
more comprehensive policy later.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS  answered  that Commissioner  Monegan  had  already                                                               
started the policy  review. Some policies have  been updated, but                                                               
at  a grindingly  slow pace.  So,  the expectation  is of  making                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:53:25 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR LEDOUX  said people are  confused about  protective custody                                                               
under Title  47 and the maximum  amount of time and  asked if the                                                               
statute itself is confusing or have people just not read it.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered that the  statute clearly says the 12-hours                                                               
is a  maximum unless  other things occur,  like someone  wants to                                                               
pick you up. The practice is the issue.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  asked how protective  custody had been  changed for                                                               
juveniles and if it could simply be that way for everybody.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS answered  that  it could.  What  applies to  adults                                                               
right now  used to be applied  to juveniles. The only  thing that                                                               
changed  is  that  the  statute   says:  "no  longer  applies  to                                                               
juveniles." The only  reason that happened is  because Alaska was                                                               
going to lose some federal grant  money in the juvenile system if                                                               
it didn't  comply with  new legislation  around this  issue. That                                                               
law changed, but the system adapted.  It's one of the reasons the                                                               
juvenile counts in the system are down.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL said  solitary confinement for youth  is the most                                                               
detrimental  thing  to  do,  but they  were  sometimes  put  into                                                               
segregation for protection from other individuals.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS said the reason that  is done in adult facilities is                                                               
that  they are  already  concerned about  their liability  issues                                                               
with a youth  in a jail setting. But research  has validated that                                                               
damage is done in solitary to juveniles.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:56:51 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COGHILL said  it should be a  facilities management issue                                                               
as well  as a people  management issue.  Pre-trial is one  of the                                                               
biggest issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS agreed  and added  that the  importance of  the PEW                                                               
work cannot  be overstated. Driving  down prison  populations and                                                               
providing  "white margins"  in  a prison  system  is critical  to                                                               
reform for  a whole host of  reasons. The fewer prisoners  in the                                                               
system the better off the  commissioner will be at quickening the                                                               
reform efforts that  need to be done. It is  absolutely the right                                                               
work at the right time in profound ways.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said the  most important work  this session  is to                                                               
pull these pieces together.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  asked why  Fairbanks is  such an  "outlier." If                                                               
the one individual  is pulled out, it still  has people returning                                                               
at  an average  of 3.28  times. Without  Fairbanks' numbers,  the                                                               
mean is  1.4. He asked  why so many  people are being  brought in                                                               
under Title 47 protective custody.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered that he  has a 50 percent confidence factor                                                               
on his  opinion about this.  One is  the amount of  resources the                                                               
community has to deal with  Title 47 protective custody: how many                                                               
sleep-off beds  they have inside  the facility. It's  also really                                                               
driven  by the  sense of  understanding of  policy among  the law                                                               
enforcement. Fairbanks  is a community  that has a lot  of people                                                               
from outlying  villages who live  on the  street, who are  in and                                                               
out of halfway houses and in and out of detox places.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE said  in some cases, Title 47 is  likely to be a                                                               
lifesaver in terms  of fatalities of the homeless  who are likely                                                               
intoxicated and die from exposure.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  agreed and added that  dying on the streets  is not                                                               
an option.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL added  that Fairbanks  put together  a community                                                               
service patrol  because people  were dying  in doorways.  That is                                                               
one of  the reasons  for Fairbanks  having "frequent  fliers" who                                                               
will  either  be in  jail  73  times  or  have gone  through  the                                                               
hospital 73 times.  The idea behind the  community service center                                                               
was to get  them to a sleep-off center, the  hospital if need be,                                                               
or the  jail as  the last resort.  Unfortunately, because  of the                                                               
service problem,  the jail  has been more  often the  place where                                                               
they have ended up.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:03:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR LEDOUX asked if there is  usually more than one juvenile in                                                               
a facility at a time.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  answered yes. In  this particular case,  there were                                                               
four in one facility.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX asked  if jails could have a wing  for the juveniles                                                               
as opposed to the hole.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS said that at one  time there was a program at Spring                                                               
Creek that  dealt with youthful  offenders, but that  program was                                                               
almost entirely  eliminated. Other  states have  gotten solutions                                                               
through policy efforts, not just money efforts.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE thanked staff for  putting this meeting together in                                                               
such  short  order and  invited  Acting  Commissioner Monegan  to                                                               
testify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:05:38 PM                                                                                                                    
ACTING   COMMISSIONER   MONEGAN,   Department   of   Corrections,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, introduced  himself. He said he  is glad these                                                               
issues came  to light, because  it is the  only way they  will be                                                               
corrected. His  team believes  no one has  to die  in corrections                                                               
and that  everyone should be  treated with respect no  matter who                                                               
they  are. The  vast  majority of  incarcerated  people are  good                                                               
individuals  who  have  made  poor choices.  A  leader  like  the                                                               
state's  governor  who  can  feel   compassion  and  outrage  for                                                               
Alaskans behind bars can create trust  in the system, but it will                                                               
take time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LAURA   BROOKS,   Health   Care  Administrator,   Department   of                                                               
Corrections, Anchorage, Alaska, introduced herself.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked for closing  remarks about what they had seen                                                               
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER MONEGAN  said he is sorry  this happened, but                                                               
he is  glad it was  brought to the  surface. If there  are issues                                                               
that need to be addressed, the best  way to handle them is out in                                                               
public. He  appreciated the work  the governor, Mr.  Williams and                                                               
Mr. Hanlon  had been doing.  Good things can  come out of  it, he                                                               
said, that will forestall any  future similar kind of events. The                                                               
governor  can feel  compassion and  outrage  for Alaskans  behind                                                               
bars and that  is a great statement about  the philosophical view                                                               
of  this administration.  It will  take time,  but once  trust is                                                               
rebuilt, it will go far.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  thanked  the commissioner  and  said  the                                                               
legislature would support him in any way it could.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:10:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  said one  of the issues  in corrections  that is                                                               
becoming more painfully apparent  is the mental health component.                                                               
One  of the  report's recommendations  is to  get the  facilities                                                               
under a singular  direction and asked what he has  to move around                                                               
to line that up.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER MONEGAN answered  that a lot of consolidation                                                               
is  needed at  the Anchorage  facilities, but  the mental  health                                                               
individual percentages  are high. Ultimately, it  would be easier                                                               
to  consolidate  a  spot  for  them,  but  that  would  deny  the                                                               
families,  especially  if they  live  outside  of Anchorage,  the                                                               
ability  to provide  the support  and constant  contact to  their                                                               
family member. He hopes with  declining populations in facilities                                                               
all over the  state that some facilities could  be repurposed for                                                               
more intensive mental health treatment,  maybe even a portion for                                                               
Title  47  if it  is  still  going to  be  in  DOC. He  said  the                                                               
afflicted need that family support close by.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:12:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL said  with the  youthful  offenders, because  of                                                               
segregation and behavioral  health, facilities management becomes                                                               
a huge  problem and  the pre-trial movement  of people  keeps the                                                               
population pretty  dynamic. Today he  heard about the  barrier at                                                               
the  CO level  between needing  meds and  getting them.  They are                                                               
probably less sensitive to that.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER   MONEGAN  recalled  the  incident   in  Mr.                                                               
Williams' report where one individual  reportedly not getting his                                                               
meds. If he  was there for 20 days, the  autopsy showed that some                                                               
medication was  still in him, which  tells him that he  must have                                                               
been receiving some medication during  the 20-day period. But the                                                               
details could be tracked a lot better, absolutely.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS explained that the  nursing staff is usually the first                                                               
line  to determine  if  someone needs  medication  or if  someone                                                               
comes in  with that history,  but some facilities don't  have 24-                                                               
hour nursing. What  happens then is that those  officers take the                                                               
history, make  a basic  determination, but then  the next  time a                                                               
nurse comes  on shift, it's up  to the medical staff  to actually                                                               
make that  determination. It's also  up to the nursing  staff and                                                               
the other medical  staff to make sure that  those individuals get                                                               
their medications, and if they are not, to figure out why.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:17:39 PM                                                                                                                    
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE thanked them for  coming today. She said throughout                                                               
the investigation,  those who are  addicted to drugs  and alcohol                                                               
were  one  problem area  along  with  co-occurring mental  health                                                               
disorders,  and in  way the  DOC needs  hospital-like competency.                                                               
She looked forward to continuing that conversation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS  commented that  Title  47  holds  are not  just  for                                                               
alcoholics; some  Title 47 holds  are non-criminal  holds because                                                               
of  mental health  issues. The  one  individual with  a .6  blood                                                               
alcohol level was a suicide  hold. Not only are individual coming                                                               
into  custody  who  have  not  committed  crimes,  but  they  are                                                               
mentally ill.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE adjourned  the Joint  House  and Senate  Judiciary                                                               
Standing Committee meeting at 1:17 p.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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